Christchurch Red-Zoned 'Land Grab' Confirmed By Court
Red-zoned 'Quake Outcasts' to be paid - but not all will go
DAVID WALKER/STUFF
Martin, left, and Rae Francis, say they will only leave their red-zoned Bexley home if they are paid out enough to replace it.
Some of Christchurch's "Quake Outcasts" will get compensation more than seven years after their properties were red zoned - but not all are celebrating.
Greater Christchurch Regeneration Minister Megan Woods announced on Tuesday the 100-strong group of uninsured Christchurch red-zone property owners, who were not paid out for their homes during the Government buyout, would receive payouts in the next few weeks.
They were previously offered the value of their land.
ALDEN WILLIAMS/STUFF
There are 103 people left who had not been paid by the Government for their uninsured red zone houses.
However the payout, based on 2007/08 rating valuations, is voluntary and not all will take it and leave their homes.
READ MORE:
* Red-zone 'fairness' argument rejected
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* Crown settles with Quake Outcasts after court rules against it
* Quake Outcasts decision: 'Unlawful' for Govt to discriminate in red zone buyout
Bexley residents Martin and Rae Francis are among those staying put.
GEORGE HEARD/STUFF
Greater Christchurch Regeneration Minister Megan Woods says the plight of those uninsured when the quakes struck was "one of the difficult legacies of the earthquakes".
"We aren't interested in a 2007 valuation - this is 2018," Martin Francis said.
They would happily remain in their home "unless we can replace what we've got here - we've got four bedrooms, two bathrooms and double glazing."
They had essential services and a view of the river, he said.
JOSEPH JOHNSON/STUFF
Annette Wilkes is one of the group. She previously said it was "utterly ridiculous" someone could come and take something that belonged to her because it was uninsured.
The Government's offer follows a 16-member class action. The court ruled former Earthquake Recovery Minister Gerry Brownlee made an "unlawful" decision to discriminate against the uninsured homeowners.
Those in the legal action were paid out, but others in the same position were not.
The total cost is expected to be about $12 million.
JOHN KIRK-ANDERSON/STUFF
Grant Cameron is the lawyer for the Quake Outcasts.
Woods said the plight of those uninsured when the quakes struck was "one of the difficult legacies of the earthquakes".
"It's time to resolve this longstanding issue and provide certainty for everyone involved, so I am implementing this decision immediately."
Christchurch Mayor Lianne Dalziel welcomed the news and said it had been a long struggle for residents.
"We have always said that every property owner in the residential red zone should have received the same offer for their property, regardless of their insurance status," she said.
Woods said the Government had carefully considered a number of different factors in response to the Court of Appeal's 2017 judgment in the Quake Outcasts litigation.
"It took some time to make this decision because we wanted to make sure it was the right one. We had to consider fairness and consistency, the precedent this decision may set, and the need to be fiscally responsible."
The Crown was willing to purchase the remaining privately-owned red zone properties, if the owners were interested in selling their property for its 2007/08 rateable value, she said.
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COMMENTS:
Some interesting and valid comments to this news after so many people were crying 'foul' that the uninsured were being treated 'better than the insured', albeit that this same complaining group of 'unfairness' were not red-zoned. [blogger]
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MM MMR
This payment is being made as Gerry Brownlee acted illegally creating red zones, forcing people off their land and out of their homes by threatening removal of services, Some homes were not badly damaged, although uninsured, and families could have stayed if they had not been red zoned.
It has nothing to do with insurance, in my opinion. It is not enough (payment) considering they are getting the Q.V. from 11 years ago.
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In my case, had we not been red zoned, we would have remained at 523 New Brighton Rd., and pursued repairing the property, after all, shortly after the 4 September, 2010 7.1 M earthquake, builders were already discussing any work required to correct a drop in the floor level in the lounge, and rectify a damaged conservatory.
There was no talk of 'red-zoning' anybody at this stage, and the subsequent 22 February 22, so-called '6.1' M earthquake* had little further damage done to the pre-existing quake damage which was deemed repairable. [blogger]
*6.1 M earthquake and the U.S. State Dept and Hillary Clinton & Geonet -in collusion??? [article to follow on this interesting tidbit!]
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Colin101
Their houses were not destroyed. Government/Insurance companies cheapest solution was to red zone this land. As part of that government decision they wrongfully expected uninsured people to walk away from their livable assests. Disgraceful.
Well done. Megan
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R.M
That's B.S. All of us who paid our insurance only got paid out because we had proper house insurance. If you are going to pay out to those who didn't have home insurance then you need to reimburse the insurance premiums to all customers who had proper insurance.
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bart h.
But were you RED ZONED then offered only RV no negotiation? All property transactions are based on the principle of "Willing Buyer, Willing Seller."
Altofacts
Government had an obligation to declare a red zone. It was based on scientific and engineering advice and probability of danger ...
bert
Altofacts The full reason for red zoning were suppressed under the OIA. Fact.
The need to appease reinsurers who were aghast at the massive liability delivered to them as a result of changes to EQC made by the National party are certainly a major reason for red zoning. Fact.
The reinsurers were threatening to 'walk away from Canterbury if not NZ' as a direct result of the failure of Bill English to update EQC's building damage capacity as he was advised to do in 2008. Understandably National's social media consultants are still all over this issue furiously obfuscating....as it is such a major example of economic incompetence and gross negligence by the former National Government. Own it.
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Electric frypan [probably feels better now that it has got it off it's chest with all that shouting!]
WOODS, this is an easy way out for you. You are learning things are tuff (sic) to sort out. I pay my insurance for my home. MAYBE THE REST OF US ARE STUPID. NOT A FAIR GO. More of our money wasted. This government is so out of control.
Disgusting Woods!
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Misty bear
It was National that red zoned and let EQC away with destroying our city.
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Shaka
The red zoning was deemed unrelated to the quakes and your insurance status.
As it is unrelated, how can you get an offer that others do not get?
Note the courts also deemed red zoning illegal but did not stop it as it had progressed too far. Gerry Brownlee stuffed up and has been kicked around the courts. +12
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Lindsay
Ugh. Are we still needing to clarify seven years later that many houses in the so-called red zone were left repairable and habitable.
They had every right not to insure their home and as it happens they took the risk and won.
Then Gerry decided to make life easier and cheaper for foreign insurance companies and boom you have a 'red zone" and people are forced off their land and out of their homes. Nobody who didn't have insurance and wasn't in the red zone is getting a pay out for the value of their home. +22
John Williams
This has nothing to do with insurance, the government made what was essentially a compulsory purchase of privately owned property but didn't want to pay a fair price. What was done to these people was a disgrace. +10
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Nothing Personal
The precedence was set by the previous government red zoning had illegally in the first place. Had not that occurred then this discussion would not be happening. They effectively paid money on red zoning to avoid costing the offshore insurance companies more ... as with everything we see lately this current government is left cleaning up the mess the previous government left. +3
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Cossielad 123
So these people were out of pocket. So were the homeowners who actually paid insurance on their homes. Does this mean that I no longer have to pay insurance and in the event of a disaster government will cough up anyway?
Ransid
If they red zone your house Yes if it's a government ruling to red zone.
If your(sic) out of the red zone then no the government shouldn't pay
Everyone should have the right to rebuild but by red zoning that took away that right to be able to rebuild their existing house.
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Byourcommand
Man, I can't believe so many haters on here who actually don't understand the scenario and the actual background of being forced off your land. It is not an insurance issue and that is why an impartial justice system at the highest level (Court of Appeal) ruled against the government.
This is totally fair and democracy working and keeping bad decisions of the previous government in check. To everyone saying your are going to cancel your insurance, then good luck if you have a flood, fire or earthquake and can stay where you are because you will end up with nothing.
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Top Comment:
Ian Dalziel
I think what worries me most about many of the commentators here, is that they are all probably eligible for Jury Service and unable to comprehend simple facts and are incredibly judgemental with it.
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For more comments :
Payout for uninsured red zoners
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EARTHQUAKES - M FOR MAN-MADE?
What about that '6.1' M earthquake to strike Christchurch around 5 minutes to 1pm on the 22 February which saw so much loss of life, and what part did the U.S State Dept and Hillary Clinton play in this catastrophic event if any? You be the judge!
Fact:
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Assange had promised to release a 'bombshell' this week, but the mainstream media whores had claimed he backed out. Seems he backed out of the planned conference, but not the actual release of data online.
Seems they even knew of the 6.3M quake - a possible reference to the Freemasonic Kabbalah number 666. There is substantial evidence the quake was in fact much bigger than 6.3m ref. my remark a short time after the '6.3'M earthquake struck shortly before 1pm...."it felt more like a 7.4M quake! "
Then if it was indeed much more than the 6.3M reported by Geonet, how come the tie-up between Hillary Clinton's -mails and Geonets reckoning? Was Geonet pressured by the N.Z. Govt after U.S. State Department pressure? Seems highly likely!
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UPDATE: 15 November, 2016
THE CHRISTCHURCH EARTHQUAKES - CLINTON E-MAILS, SEISMIC SHIP OFF N.Z. COAST DURING RECENT EARTHQUAKES CLOSE TO KAIKOURA
http://mediawhores.co.nz/2016/10/04/hillary-clinton-emails-show-advanced-warning-of-christchurch-earthquake/
Recently released Hillary Clinton e-mails show U.S. State Department advanced knowledge of the big Christchurch Earthquake on 22 February, 2011.
The first e-mail sent by the State Department to head of the department, Hillary Clinton, was sent a full 6 hours before the actual quake hit, Washington being 18 hours behind NZST.
Hillary Clinton E mail Archive
6.3 MAGNITUDE EARTHQUAKE IN CHRISTCHURCH, NEW ZEALAND
From: Jake Sullivan
To: Hillary Clinton
Date: 2011 - 02 - 21 12:35
Subject: 6.3 MAGNITUDE EARTHQUAKE IN CHRISTCHURCH, NEW ZEALAND
UNCLASSIFIED U.S. Department of State Case No. F -2014-20439
Doc No. CO5778832 Date: 01/29/2016
RELEASE IN FULL
From: Sullivan, Jacob J < sullivan JJ@state.gov>
Sent: Monday, February 21, 2011 7:35PM
To: H; Mills, Cheryl D: Aberdin, Hume: Rennes, Phillipp I
Subject: Fw: 6.3 magnitude earthquake in Christchurch, New Zealand
And on cue ...
From: OpsAlert@state.gov<sAlert@state.gov>
Sent: Monday Feb 21 19:32:18 2011
Subject: 6.3 magnitude earthquake in Christchurch, New Zealand
Therewasnoimmediateconfirmationof injuriesor damagetothecityfromthequakeacc
Automatic electronic distribution to: S, D(S), D(N), P, E, C, M, DG, T, R, PA, G, AF , EAP, EUR, NEA, SCA, WHA, 10, SICRS, H, CA, PMAT,INR, AVC, IIP, ISN, CMS, S/ES, S/ES-O, NSOC, and WHSR
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Interesting update on the 4th September 2018 - 8th Anniversary of the 7.1 M Christchurch earthquake
SOURCES: China Hacked Hillary Clinton’s Private Email Server
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AND LET'S NOT FORGET ABOUT THE 7.8M KAIKOURA/MARLBOROUGH EARTHQUAKE OF NOVEMBER 2015?
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Council accused of 'tampering'
STACY SQUIRES/STUFF
Coastal Christchurch resident Pete Watkinson has been told he cannot build a home on the property he purchased in November 2017. The section is sitting empty, and is essentially worthless.
A dispute has erupted between Christchurch City Council bosses and elected representatives over claims the district plan was deliberately altered, potentially leaving homeowners in flood-prone areas millions of dollars out of pocket.
City councillor David East has called for an independent inquiry into claims staff tampered with the plan and erased a clause after it had been signed off.
Community leaders said the apparent sabotage amounted to "red-zoning by stealth", suggesting people in New Brighton, Southshore and Redcliffs may have been left millions of dollars out of pocket.
Pete Watkinson told Stuff his plans to build a new home in Southshore had been scuppered by the planning process, leaving his family on the verge of moving into a caravan.
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* Development Christchurch gets $3m a year in public funding
Speaking at a press conference on Monday, East said the alleged tampering had "denied residents their legal rights" and caused "huge emotional stress and community upheaval".
The Christchurch City Council fought the inclusion of the clause, which made it easier for people to develop homes and land in flood-prone areas, during the process of the plan's ratification two years ago.
Iain McGregor/Stuff
Residents in New Brighton and Southshore in Christchurch feel they are hamstrung in efforts to develop homes in the area because of restrictions in the council's district plan.
Despite an independent hearings panel ordering it to be included, it was left out of the final version.
The omission – which was known about – was previously thought to be an oversight.
But local politicians claim council staff admitted during a meeting last month the clause was deliberately deleted from the plan's final draft because they did not support its inclusion.
East said the omission had caused "undue and unnecessary financial stress" for residents in his ward, seriously affecting their health.
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Update: 4th September, 8th Anniversary of the 7.1M Christchurch Earthquake
Christchurch councillor in trouble over staff 'tampering' claims
STACY SQUIRES/STUFF
Coastal Christchurch resident Pete Watkinson has been told he cannot build a home on the property he purchased in November 2017. The section is sitting empty, and is essentially worthless.
A Christchurch City councillor faces a disciplinary hearing after publicly claiming council staff had deliberately altered the city's district plan.
David East, who represents the Coastal ward, met with Mayor Lianne Dalziel after calling for an independent inquiry into claims staff erased a clause after it had been signed off.
East held a press conference on Monday in which he alleged that legislation that would have made it easier for residents in flood-prone areas of the city to renovate and build homes had been removed.
JOSEPH JOHNSON/STUFF
Coastal ward councillor David East faces disciplinary action over allegations that council staff deliberately tampered with the city's district plan.
But on Tuesday he was brought before the mayor and told in a "terse" conversation that he was being disciplined over his actions.
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"I have had a meeting with the mayor and she has discussed things with the rest of the councillors," East said.
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Residents in New Brighton and Southshore in Christchurch feel they are hamstrung in efforts to develop homes in the area because of restrictions in the council's district plan.
"I think it's fair to say I've been stood down in my role as chairman of the regulatory compliance committee and I am potentially facing a code of conduct consideration over my allegations about staff."
East said on Monday the alleged tampering had "denied residents their legal rights" and caused "huge emotional stress and community upheaval".
The Christchurch City Council fought the inclusion of the clause, which made it easier for people to develop homes and land in flood-prone areas, during the process of the plan's ratification two years ago.
East Christchurch resident Pete Watkinson told Stuff on Monday his plans to build a new home in Southshore had been scuppered by the planning process, leaving his family on the verge of moving into a caravan.
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David
The corrupt Communist Christchurch City Council has been caught out once again and exposed by this courageous man and duly covered on catholic2007.blogspot.co.nz ...for their criminal activity.
MCMMR
This
payment is being made as Gerry Brownlee acted illegally, creating red
zones, forcing people off their land and out of their homes by
threatening removal of services. Some homes were not badly damaged,
although uninsured, and families could have stayed if they had not been
red zoned. It has nothing to do with insurance, it's to do with fairness
and in my opinion, it's not enough because they are getting the QV from
11 years ago.
This payment is
being made as Gerry Brownlee acted illegally, creating red zones,
forcing people off their land and out of their homes by threatening
removal of services. Some homes were not badly damaged, although
uninsured, and families could have stayed if they had not been red
zoned. It has nothing to do with insurance, it's to do with fairness and
in my opinion, it's not enough because they are getting the QV from 11
years ago.
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